If I had more time I'd get long winded, but work calls.
So, I just "ditto" Scootergirl.
granny
i was about 12 years old when this happened, but i remember it like it was yesterday.
it was a late evening and i was by myself in our home.
i grew up in a country home far from most any thing.
If I had more time I'd get long winded, but work calls.
So, I just "ditto" Scootergirl.
granny
never was a jw, and am fascinated by the demon stories .
can anyone verify that demons are currently/today talked about??
i guess they just sound dated, perhaps from growing up years, say 20 years ago?
Auntie,
I can sure understand your concern for your neice. Children...they suffer so much at the hands of "well intended" parents sometimes. UGH.
One of the most heartbreaking stories about my brother was when he was about 5? Very young. My mom held a book study with a gal who's husband was prone to seizure. Anyhow one particular night after returning home from this ladies house; my mom had taken my brother with her, all hell broke loose because the rumor got started that the husband was demonized - thus those pesky demons must be rampant in the house.
My brother (this still pisses me off when I think back) was so frightened of dying because he had eaten a carrot at the home earlier. Hell, even the elder's were called into this mess, and I also remember my mom got little sleep that night because of her fear, too.
Here we have a young, impressionable child that is already so afraid because of the adult bullshit!!!
OH, one night my older sibling came to my home at 2 a.m., convinced the demons had just been running across her bed and ran out through the window. She has always been a sensative, but because she is a fence-rider, refusing to let go of the JW thing, she has sadly become extremely neurotic over the years. We had opportunity after 8 years to rekindle our relationship, but it wasn't going to work out because I wasn't going to play the JW game with her. Heck, she was the reason I began searching for information and found these sites for former JW's.
Although I've had no contact with my brother for years, I was told he hates the JW's...gee, wonder why.
It took years before I was able to sleep with no lights on in the house somewhere. And although my granddaugher has never been subjected to JW's, I work with her on the same fear because it's unfounded, but children are vulnerable and it's up to the adults to help eliminate such fear; not feed and nourish such unbalance. But then again, we're talking about some of the most unbalanced humans running amuck. Jehovah Witnesses...yeah, they can all kiss my arse!!!
Granny
Welcome.
I've been df for a whole lot of years...one of the best things that could have happened to me really. Last year while doing research for an older, fence-riding sibling, I came across forums such as this, and have been addicted ever since.
We await your story.
Granny
could you answer me this one question?, (i trust you will see this message) ~ .
on beyondjehovahswitnesses.com, did you pose as "snoozy", write a few posts to which you signed her name and have to apologize to tim?.
i just wondered what sort of person you really are.. you may not choose to answer this question, (for obvious reasons).. by the way, you are not a bad writer, a tad "flowery" in my opinion and you're not exactly nietzshce, but it obviously keeps you busy.
Morning,
Ya know what gets old?...trying to figure out who is trust worthy or not. But then I have too remember this is an on-line source of communication; any of us can portray ourselves one way and be just the opposite.
In the past I've read some pretty nasty name calling directed towards Snoozy...and really didn't have a clue to what the problem was about. But the name calling came from those who screamed the loudest about what a vile person she was.
Guess that's why I decided that becoming a little more thick skinned was the only way to survive on forums; and simply ignore some threads.
But, as with this particular thread, I remember some of these folks from Tim's board, and like them all. Each person had something of value to contribute. So I wanted my say, too. It's not about helping fan the flames, as I was accused of on Tim's board (different scenerio).
I love ya'll, period. The only thing most of us have in common is our link with the JW's. If for any other reason we are able to create an off-line friendship then that's ok, too. But this, "she said, he said, they said" bullcrap gets old. So there, I've had my say.
Granny, who is learning that it's ok too express herself.
http://news.com.com/2100-1023-244195.html?legacy=cnet
in a suit headed by the attoneys general of 28 us states, it is alleged that record companies capital records, sony music group, bertelsmann's bmg entertainment, seagram's universal music group and time warner's warner music group, along with retailers musicland, transworld and tower records have violated antitrust laws since 1995. .
"our nation's business economy has been built on the notion of a fair and free competition," new york attorney general eliot spitzer, one of the lawsuit's leaders, said in a statement today.
I'd really like to know, when isn't the consumer taking it in the shorts?
g.l.
i swear, if this recording would have picked up my saying, "f--k you!, i'd have said it.
geezzzzz, give me a break.
how in the hell is one supposed to take care of busines when all you get is some recording!
I swear, if this recording would have picked up my saying, "F--k you!, I'd have said it. Geezzzzz, give me a break. How in the hell is one supposed to take care of busines when all you get is some recording! Choose this or that option; number 1 through 5. How about a real live human that might possess intelligence enough to deal with the given situation.
Finally I got a "real" person. Geez, what a concept. Professionalism - how is a machine professional? Yeah, I'm getting old alright. The "good old days" when one needed to communicate with a thinking person who could actually carry on a dialogue - whether or not they could correct the problem, they were able to refer you to the source of help.
And wait!the machine tells you as though everyone is an idiot how to speak and spell. OMG. Do they really believe everyone is stupid! and can't follow directions without spelling it out phrase for phrase? If anyone is an idiot, it's gotta be the person who invented automated voices.
Is this just another example of NWO that takes away any personal connection yet tells us how we should be so "sensative" to the needs of those who are different?
Granny
has anyone else tried salvia?
i recently tried this herb, which is a member of the sage family, via smoking it.
i must say that it is a psychedellic not for the faint of heart or one who fears the loss of control for several minutes at a time.
Hummmmm. Guess I'll just sit back and read about other's experience's. In the olden days, I tried acid a few times, but didn't care for the after effect. Although I'm a firm believer in herbs, if one is cautioned to "not be alone" that would be a red flag for me...at least these days anyhow.
Good point though about communion with the Gods after ingesting these type "drugs" or herbs. Just one more reason, added to many, why I think the mystics didn't reach an exhalted state of mind through their own endeavors...herbs that induced such states of mind were more readily available.
But not to sound like some sort of goody, goody; which I'm not, I can still enjoy a puff on the peace pipe simply because it does alter my state of thinking. But do I rely upon it for some kind of "insight"? Not really. I think that one developes the ability to really 'hear' and 'see' without the use of any type of mind alterting substance, then maybe the whole person is onto something.
A good friend of mine wrote a book about his 30 year experience with the Magic Mushroom. "Big Red", "Soma", whatever the heck the official name is. His claim is that this mushroom is the way to God...however one defines such a force; although he wasn't into the popular Christian theology. He did however come to believe (through his use of the Soma) that the message is hidden within the pages of the Bible.
I have another long time acquaince that gives small doses of Soma to his sick children. Because it is known as a cure for many ails, I don't dispute that because if anything will kill ya fast, it's the constant peddeling of synthetic drugs produced by "doctors."
I might be inticed to try Mescaline again. I found that to be most peaceful and no "warning" about whether or not one should be alone. Nah. I'm just too old, so revert back to my first statement...let those younger and braver do the experiencing with mind alterting substances. Be it an herb or not.
Hey, I certainly don't "judge" those who try various substances. Age just does make a difference.
Granny...who is content to learn from just being. Hell, I must be getting old.
first off, let me express that bill bowen would not know me from any stranger on the street.
i have never spoken with him, or have i ever corresponded with him.
the only information that i have of him is what i have read of him on this forum and on silentlambs.org.
I can certainly see where being "politically correct" for sake of world peace and all that happy horsehockey is really gonna work to the benefit of humanity. Yeah, right.
Love ya'll,
Granny
i wanted to hear the president's speech tonight, but can't stand listening to the man.
he has a prepared speech but he keeps saying nuc-you-lar instead of nuc-le-ar.
i can't stand it.. you would think his people would walk him through correct pronunciation.
Bush - Skull and Bones.
Hey, I'd read years ago where former VP Quayle (sp) had said something to the effect - if I'd known I was going to be in Latin America, I'd studied Latin better in college...or some such thing.
Some might "gotta love the politicians" just isn't me.
Granny
i'm a former jw that faded out this year.
i'm 21 years old and i live in a certian midwestern state.
the reason why i left was because of many things.
Welcome, welcome, welcome . Damn, I'm having too much fun with these faces lately. Oh well, what can ya say about a granny who finds joy out of the little things in life, eh.
I hope you will be able to check in regulary despite your parents knowledge. My friend uses a library computer if that might make a difference.
Usually my mantra, especially to the younger one's, goes something like this: Thank goodness you have come to your senses before a lifetime has been spent.
I'm 51 years of age and have been df since age 19. Instead of reverting into a world of drugs/alcohol I'd hope you decide to pursue an education that many of us missed out on. But then again, one is never to old to go back to school. I got most of my education from OJT...and hard knocks. I'm somewhat street savey...because I listen to our youth, and have been there and done that type thing. As many others. It's hard to bullshit a bullshitterthere I go again...
There's a sorta irony to home schooling. I'd encourage you, that's for sure, to go for the gusto, but at my age and experience, I'm thinking home schooling for the grandchildren might not be a good avenue to pursue these days. Hell, even in this small community, the high school has a permanent resident cop on campus. What horsecrap. Yeah, our kids need that sense of security the whole time they are in the bathrooms doing their drugs...and of course there isn't a teenage pregnancy problem here...yeah, right. OMG, there I go rambling again.
One of my greatest concern's is for our youth. I don't want to just say children because those of your age are not children...and I care deeply about you all. It's the parents that disgust me. Even then I must remember that many come from violent, controlling and shame based homes themselves. It's just as the adult, we are the responsible one now.
So...onward and upward towards the life you can now create. That's a wonderful gift too embrace. Self responsibility. Look at our JW parents for instance. Hell, they don't have a clue about accepting responsibility because there has always been the govering body of dipshits telling them how to think and feel. No love lost from my vantage.
My mom is 76 years old and still waiting for Jehovah to make the change. How pathetic. But I really don't miss their association because after carrying that baggage around for some 25 years, I've found freedom. Freedom does have a cost...responsibility to one self.
To Thine Own Self be True....
Love Ya,
Granny; who believes in Magic because IT works.